Surya in the 8th House
Sun in the 8th house, by Phaladeepika and Lal Kitab
What Surya gives in the 8th house by Lal Kitab and by Phaladeepika, its upay, the houses it looks at from there, and what it means for each lagna.
The Sun in the 8th house lessens the happiness that comes from the father, and can bring hidden losses and penalties from the government.
Lal Kitab reads Surya in the 8th house by the house, not by your lagna; Parashara’s view for your own lagna is further down, and Phaladeepika and Brihat Jataka may differ. How Lal Kitab and Parashara differ · Lal Kitab: pakka ghar, rin and upay
Lal Kitab upay
Throw jaggery or copper coins in flowing water on Sundays.
This is Lal Kitab’s one upay for Surya in the 8th house, offered to ease its harder side; it is a suggestion, and your whole kundli may call for another. All upay for Surya
What Phaladeepika says
Mantreswara, Adhyaya 8, sloka 3Phaladeepika 8.3 holds that Surya (Sun) in the 8th house (the house of longevity and hidden matters) brings a loss of wealth and of friends. As cautions, the text warns of a shorter life and of weak eyesight, even blindness.
How much of this holds turns on the rest of the chart: the rashi Surya sits in, the 8th house’s lord and the grahas with it or looking at it. The old texts speak of a man; their readings apply to anyone.
What Brihat Jataka says
Varahamihira, sloka 20.3BJ 20.3: the Sun in the 8th gives few children and weak eyesight.
When Surya in the 8th house shows, and where it looks
Its results show most in Surya’s own mahadasha (6 years) and in its antardashas inside the others. The 8th house’s matters also come forward in the periods of the house’s lord, which depends on your lagna.
Its drishti (a graha’s glance: the houses it looks at feel its influence) from the 8th, by the rules our kundli reading weighs houses with:
- on your 2nd house (money saved): is counted neither way in our reading
The 8th house, Ayu bhava, rules longevity, sudden events, inheritance and hidden matters; it is a dusthana (the 6th, 8th and 12th houses, the hard houses of illness, sudden events and loss); its karaka (the graha that naturally signifies a house’s matters, whatever the lagna) is Shani. The 8th house, and every graha in it
Surya in the 8th house, for each lagna
the rashi it sits in, and the houses it rules| Lagna | Surya sits in | Its state there | Lord of your | For this lagna |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mesh (Aries) | Vrishchik (Scorpio) | Friendly | 5th | Benefic |
| Vrishabh (Taurus) | Dhanu (Sagittarius) | Friendly | 4th | Benefic |
| Mithun (Gemini) | Makar (Capricorn) | Enemy | 3rd | Malefic |
| Kark (Cancer) | Kumbh (Aquarius) | Enemy | 2nd | Maraka |
| Singh (Leo) | Meen (Pisces) | Friendly | 1st | Benefic |
| Kanya (Virgo) | Mesh (Aries) | Exalted | 12th | Neutral— gives results by association (34.32) |
| Tula (Libra) | Vrishabh (Taurus) | Enemy | 11th | Malefic |
| Vrishchik (Scorpio) | Mithun (Gemini) | Neutral | 10th | Yogakaraka— as the verse names it, together with Chandra, the 9th lord (34.35–36) |
| Dhanu (Sagittarius) | Kark (Cancer) | Friendly | 9th | Benefic · Yoga— gives yoga together with Budh (34.38) |
| Makar (Capricorn) | Singh (Leo) | Own rashi | 8th | Neutral |
| Kumbh (Aquarius) | Kanya (Virgo) | Neutral | 7th | Maraka |
| Meen (Pisces) | Tula (Libra) | Debilitated | 6th | Malefic |
The 8th is a dusthana, one of the hard houses. Where the table calls Surya a yogakaraka (the graha that brings yoga, success and standing, to a lagna: the best it can have) or a benefic for a lagna, sitting here it gives less than its lordship promises.
Surya’s state in each rashi, and the houses it rules for each lagna, as our free kundli reads them (BPHS chapter 34); each house links to what Parashara says of its lord sitting in the 8th. “Its state there” is how that rashi treats Surya: exalted, own, friendly, neutral (sam), enemy or debilitated. “For this lagna” is Parashara’s verdict on the houses it rules. The two answer different questions.
The labels, from Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, chapter 34:
- Yogakaraka: the strongest graha a lagna can have: the one Parashara names as bringing yoga, or the one lord of both a kendra (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th) and a trikona (1st, 5th, 9th) (34.13)
- Benefic, Malefic, Neutral: works for the lagna; brings its harder matters; neither
- Lagna lord: the lagna’s own graha, where the verse calls it neither good nor hard
- Maraka: a killer Parashara names for the lagna, watched for health and longevity; printed alone, or after another label. It is not always the lord of the 2nd or 7th: where it differs, the line under it gives the verse
- · Yoga: one of two grahas he says give yoga together for this lagna
Brihat Jataka 20.11 grades how much of its good a graha gives by the rashi it sits in. For a malefic like Surya the translator reverses the scale and the commentators differ, so read Surya in the 8th house by Parashara’s table above. BJ 20.10–11
Surya in the 8th house: where it works best, and where hardest
read off the table aboveSurya passing through the 8th from your Moon
the gochar of Surya, not the birth chartNot the birth placement above: here Surya is moving through the 8th counted from your Moon rashi. Phaladeepika does not count the 8th among Surya’s good transit houses (all twelve, on the Surya page). Our Monthly Prediction reads it as difficult: health trouble and obstacles; a time of change.
Common questions
3 questionsIs Surya in the 8th house good?
Lal Kitab counts it a hard placement; Surya does well in the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 9th, 10th and 11th. By its rashi, it is strongest for Kanya and Makar lagna; it is debilitated for Meen lagna.
What is the Lal Kitab upay for Surya in the 8th house?
Lal Kitab’s upay for it: Throw jaggery or copper coins in flowing water on Sundays.
Which houses does Surya look at from the 8th?
The 2nd (money saved).
A graha reads the same for everybody. Your chart does not.
Where each graha sits in your kundli, which bhavas it rules for your lagna and which dasha is running decide what it does for you. Make your free kundli to see all nine.
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